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	<title>Comments on: 5-Year-Old Child Handcuffed and Arrested</title>
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		<title>By: Merwin Haight Jr</title>
		<link>http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/297.html/comment-page-14#comment-3634</link>
		<dc:creator>Merwin Haight Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the school acted in the right way, regardless of skin color. If this child is the product of 5yrs parental direction from her mother/ parents/family what is the home life like? Has the mother looked at her self and asked for help? Has the mother asked for help with her child? Is it a new thing that has come to the eyes of the family that they have a real problem with this child.
When the school system is operating as a care giver &amp; instructor they should be given the rights to teach at all levels including discipline, with out lawsuits and charges.
If the child has a &quot;melt down&quot; the teacher/ principle should be allowed to touch the child make them sit without legal recourse.
What will be the next level of &quot; Melt Down&quot; wow I did this and mommy got money and I get special treatment. Due to the mother&#039;s actions and her lawyer this child will be tagged in the system and rejected by teachers &amp; Principals. Would I allow this child in my class room NO!, do I want to risk the lashing from the mother and her lawyer NO! Would I risk my career as a teacher NO! The mother needs help, the child needs help, they do no need a lawyer (sucking for money)!
I commend the police  for the actions they took, they acted in the interest of the public (the school, staff &amp; other students). 
They child should be allowed to return to school with conditions placed on her and the mother! And get rid of the money sucking lawyer!!!!!!  Skin color is not an issue here it is discipline!!!!!!! I support the school&#039;s actions &amp; the police action&#039;s!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the school acted in the right way, regardless of skin color. If this child is the product of 5yrs parental direction from her mother/ parents/family what is the home life like? Has the mother looked at her self and asked for help? Has the mother asked for help with her child? Is it a new thing that has come to the eyes of the family that they have a real problem with this child.<br />
When the school system is operating as a care giver &amp; instructor they should be given the rights to teach at all levels including discipline, with out lawsuits and charges.<br />
If the child has a &#8220;melt down&#8221; the teacher/ principle should be allowed to touch the child make them sit without legal recourse.<br />
What will be the next level of &#8221; Melt Down&#8221; wow I did this and mommy got money and I get special treatment. Due to the mother&#8217;s actions and her lawyer this child will be tagged in the system and rejected by teachers &amp; Principals. Would I allow this child in my class room NO!, do I want to risk the lashing from the mother and her lawyer NO! Would I risk my career as a teacher NO! The mother needs help, the child needs help, they do no need a lawyer (sucking for money)!<br />
I commend the police  for the actions they took, they acted in the interest of the public (the school, staff &amp; other students).<br />
They child should be allowed to return to school with conditions placed on her and the mother! And get rid of the money sucking lawyer!!!!!!  Skin color is not an issue here it is discipline!!!!!!! I support the school&#8217;s actions &amp; the police action&#8217;s!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/297.html/comment-page-14#comment-3627</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And all the people insistent that race did play a factor, including the Black people, in this are living in delusion. I love how people act like Black people are incapable of being racist again their own. Unfortunately there are many Blacks who act worse towards their own race than ever Whites. Such as the boy who was sent to boot camp and murdered. One of the guards that beat him to death was Black.

My mom has worked in the school system for almost 20 years, before that she worked for DCS. In all her time in the schools, I&#039;ve heard multiple stories from her of the disproportionate treatment of Black kids vs. White kids. My friend&#039;s little brother threatened people with a knife, they didn&#039;t call the cops for him and he&#039;s White. They just made a note in his file, he wasn&#039;t even suspended. A Black child brought a knife to school to cut a cake and was suspended. As much as you people might like to fool yourselves, race is a factor and will always be a factor until you people stop refusing to acknowledge it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And all the people insistent that race did play a factor, including the Black people, in this are living in delusion. I love how people act like Black people are incapable of being racist again their own. Unfortunately there are many Blacks who act worse towards their own race than ever Whites. Such as the boy who was sent to boot camp and murdered. One of the guards that beat him to death was Black.</p>
<p>My mom has worked in the school system for almost 20 years, before that she worked for DCS. In all her time in the schools, I&#8217;ve heard multiple stories from her of the disproportionate treatment of Black kids vs. White kids. My friend&#8217;s little brother threatened people with a knife, they didn&#8217;t call the cops for him and he&#8217;s White. They just made a note in his file, he wasn&#8217;t even suspended. A Black child brought a knife to school to cut a cake and was suspended. As much as you people might like to fool yourselves, race is a factor and will always be a factor until you people stop refusing to acknowledge it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/297.html/comment-page-14#comment-3626</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And can I add, any parents who are claiming this is anything beyond a normal tantrum are obvious unintelligent AND are affected by the girls race. I&#039;ve been in TWO different human development classes, and multiple psychology classes. My mother is trained Social Worker with a Specialist&#039;s degree in Social Work and has dealt with kids with REAL emotional issues. This was a temper tantrum, one that all young children have. And any parent on here claiming that their child has NEVER had a similar tantrum. Unless you have the most freakishly well-behaved child in the world, You Are A Liar. I will say that straight out, you are lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And can I add, any parents who are claiming this is anything beyond a normal tantrum are obvious unintelligent AND are affected by the girls race. I&#8217;ve been in TWO different human development classes, and multiple psychology classes. My mother is trained Social Worker with a Specialist&#8217;s degree in Social Work and has dealt with kids with REAL emotional issues. This was a temper tantrum, one that all young children have. And any parent on here claiming that their child has NEVER had a similar tantrum. Unless you have the most freakishly well-behaved child in the world, You Are A Liar. I will say that straight out, you are lying.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/297.html/comment-page-14#comment-3625</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teachers are allowed to restrain students, it&#039;s ridiculous to act like they&#039;re not. And even if they feel like they can&#039;t touch them, that&#039;s what school security is for. Grabbing her wrists and restraining her would have been more than enough to stop her. Don&#039;t try to defend the teachers by saying &#039;Oh, they can&#039;t touch her so they did the best they could.&#039; That&#039;s nonsense. So much of this feels like it was obviously led by the fact that the girl is Black. Have to call the cops of the out of control Black child. If a White child had had a similar tantrum, and you can&#039;t tell me that they haven&#039;t because tantrums of this nature are a norm in children this age, would they have called the cops? They haven&#039;t before have they?

&quot;Finally the police show up and tell her to calm down and behave. She refuses, so the cops pull her up out of the chair where she’s sulking and handcuff her. This is the first time the kid begins to whine and howl like she’s being murdered. Typical young child being a drama llama. Wow, actual consequences for her actions! No wonder she’s pissed.&quot;

She was sitting in a chair, sulking. Sitting in a chair sulking would be considered behaving, moron. As for her screaming, would you not if you have 3 people twice your size yanking your arms back behind your back and arresting you. This is not a typical young child being dramatic, it&#039;s a child being justifiably frightened at 3 large adults putting her into an uncomfortable position and handcuffing her. You&#039;ve shown your stupidity quite clearly here. I leave you with a quote by Lincoln: &quot;It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one&#039;s mouth and remove all doubt.&quot;

While the child did deserve punishment, children need to know that tantrums won&#039;t be tolerated, this was beyond excessive and honestly probably didn&#039;t teach her a damn thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teachers are allowed to restrain students, it&#8217;s ridiculous to act like they&#8217;re not. And even if they feel like they can&#8217;t touch them, that&#8217;s what school security is for. Grabbing her wrists and restraining her would have been more than enough to stop her. Don&#8217;t try to defend the teachers by saying &#8216;Oh, they can&#8217;t touch her so they did the best they could.&#8217; That&#8217;s nonsense. So much of this feels like it was obviously led by the fact that the girl is Black. Have to call the cops of the out of control Black child. If a White child had had a similar tantrum, and you can&#8217;t tell me that they haven&#8217;t because tantrums of this nature are a norm in children this age, would they have called the cops? They haven&#8217;t before have they?</p>
<p>&#8220;Finally the police show up and tell her to calm down and behave. She refuses, so the cops pull her up out of the chair where she’s sulking and handcuff her. This is the first time the kid begins to whine and howl like she’s being murdered. Typical young child being a drama llama. Wow, actual consequences for her actions! No wonder she’s pissed.&#8221;</p>
<p>She was sitting in a chair, sulking. Sitting in a chair sulking would be considered behaving, moron. As for her screaming, would you not if you have 3 people twice your size yanking your arms back behind your back and arresting you. This is not a typical young child being dramatic, it&#8217;s a child being justifiably frightened at 3 large adults putting her into an uncomfortable position and handcuffing her. You&#8217;ve shown your stupidity quite clearly here. I leave you with a quote by Lincoln: &#8220;It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one&#8217;s mouth and remove all doubt.&#8221;</p>
<p>While the child did deserve punishment, children need to know that tantrums won&#8217;t be tolerated, this was beyond excessive and honestly probably didn&#8217;t teach her a damn thing.</p>
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		<title>By: atticus182</title>
		<link>http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/297.html/comment-page-14#comment-3603</link>
		<dc:creator>atticus182</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kinda funny. its not a big deal. teacher needs to find alternative and parent needs to be a better parent.. end of story. no need to make a big deal that isnt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kinda funny. its not a big deal. teacher needs to find alternative and parent needs to be a better parent.. end of story. no need to make a big deal that isnt</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/297.html/comment-page-14#comment-3550</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am appalled by some of the comments I&#039;ve seen here.  First of all this is a 5 year old CHILD!  5 year old children throw temper tantrums, break things when they don&#039;t get their way and generally have meltdowns when they don&#039;t get something they want.  To say this is the mothers fault is beyond ridiculous but totally untrue!  The fact of the matter, our precious Government has taken the control OUT of the parents hands period!  You do something they don&#039;t like, you&#039;ll get arrested or your children taken away from you.  The mother probably tried all the &quot;child governess actions&quot; our precious Government (CPS, DHS etc...) wanted her to do and it&#039;s obviously not working.  Someone said a child learns hitting form their parents?  That&#039;s a load!  We were all born with aggression, and to release that aggression we hit, bit, kick, punch and cause general mayhem!  Our parents try to teach us what society says is not correct behavior.  But once again if you have a Government official telling you time out is better (but it doesn&#039;t work) and a spanking is bad (but it does work), then obviously, they have no freaking clue as to how to control the behavior of any child.  What works for one child may well NOT work for another!  To arrest a child who&#039;s barely out of diapers is utterly ridiculous, and ludicrous at best!  I&#039;m completely sickened by the complete lack of brains I read regarding the school, and the police as well!  As for the teachers not being paid to raise these children, well, tell the Government to back the heck off of the parents, and then the parents can actually DO their job without the worry of themselves possibly being arrested for corporal punishment!  Good lord, raising kids in society today is like playing dodge ball with cars!  Too many idiots telling you how to raise them, and not letting you do it yourself!  UGGGGGGGGGGG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am appalled by some of the comments I&#8217;ve seen here.  First of all this is a 5 year old CHILD!  5 year old children throw temper tantrums, break things when they don&#8217;t get their way and generally have meltdowns when they don&#8217;t get something they want.  To say this is the mothers fault is beyond ridiculous but totally untrue!  The fact of the matter, our precious Government has taken the control OUT of the parents hands period!  You do something they don&#8217;t like, you&#8217;ll get arrested or your children taken away from you.  The mother probably tried all the &#8220;child governess actions&#8221; our precious Government (CPS, DHS etc&#8230;) wanted her to do and it&#8217;s obviously not working.  Someone said a child learns hitting form their parents?  That&#8217;s a load!  We were all born with aggression, and to release that aggression we hit, bit, kick, punch and cause general mayhem!  Our parents try to teach us what society says is not correct behavior.  But once again if you have a Government official telling you time out is better (but it doesn&#8217;t work) and a spanking is bad (but it does work), then obviously, they have no freaking clue as to how to control the behavior of any child.  What works for one child may well NOT work for another!  To arrest a child who&#8217;s barely out of diapers is utterly ridiculous, and ludicrous at best!  I&#8217;m completely sickened by the complete lack of brains I read regarding the school, and the police as well!  As for the teachers not being paid to raise these children, well, tell the Government to back the heck off of the parents, and then the parents can actually DO their job without the worry of themselves possibly being arrested for corporal punishment!  Good lord, raising kids in society today is like playing dodge ball with cars!  Too many idiots telling you how to raise them, and not letting you do it yourself!  UGGGGGGGGGGG</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/297.html/comment-page-14#comment-3544</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those teachers are NOT getting paid to raise lazy welfare parents kids. I think they did the right thing. If you think you&#039;d handle it differntly then HOW???? She&#039;s damaging property. Kids like that are the ones who become drug users and shoot people. Children learn hitting from PARENTS not teachers. Get a reality check that little girl NEEDS disipline aparently she&#039;s well past time outs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those teachers are NOT getting paid to raise lazy welfare parents kids. I think they did the right thing. If you think you&#8217;d handle it differntly then HOW???? She&#8217;s damaging property. Kids like that are the ones who become drug users and shoot people. Children learn hitting from PARENTS not teachers. Get a reality check that little girl NEEDS disipline aparently she&#8217;s well past time outs.</p>
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		<title>By: Britney</title>
		<link>http://www.leftist.org/haightspeech/archives/297.html/comment-page-14#comment-3334</link>
		<dc:creator>Britney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that this artcle was very unexperienced because the little girl was 5 years old in is just starting out in school and jennifer piles the teacher has been ateacher for 15 years and can&#039;t handle a simple situation i feel like you should under stand that just becuase the news betrayed her as some wild animal that poeple should think its okay to label a 5 year old girl as a threat to society its a shame that you guys didnt put in your article when the police came they had asked a teacher didnt they call the parents and the teacher said 45 minutes ago so they had not had permission to hancuff her child the just had a problem with the mother before and also handcuffs dont fit 5 year olds you cant get handcuffs at disnet land or off an ice cream truck so think real hard if your the best person to writing on such a subject you really didnt look into like you should have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that this artcle was very unexperienced because the little girl was 5 years old in is just starting out in school and jennifer piles the teacher has been ateacher for 15 years and can&#8217;t handle a simple situation i feel like you should under stand that just becuase the news betrayed her as some wild animal that poeple should think its okay to label a 5 year old girl as a threat to society its a shame that you guys didnt put in your article when the police came they had asked a teacher didnt they call the parents and the teacher said 45 minutes ago so they had not had permission to hancuff her child the just had a problem with the mother before and also handcuffs dont fit 5 year olds you cant get handcuffs at disnet land or off an ice cream truck so think real hard if your the best person to writing on such a subject you really didnt look into like you should have.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a difference beetween punishment and discipline as few people seem to know. That whole episode could haae been handled differently. preventing it from esculating completely out of hand as it did.  Was taking the jelly beans away from the child necessary because she was acting &quot;silly&quot;. I would like to know just what &quot;silly&quot; actually meant. The act of taking awawy the jelly beans  created resistence.  Resistence  creates resistense  a principle of life. Teachers need to be trained to know this difference. If you want to know the differnce, and don&#039;t laugh, watch the Dog Whisperer, Cesar Millan. He is teaching people  this difference and that love without discipline  does not work, nor does punishment as a substitute for discipline.  He demonstrates how calm assertive discipline changes negative  or undesirable behavioor into a positive state of mind. He does it  before it esulates by remaining  calm and assertive.  No teacher should ever be allowed to backhand a child. There are much more effective tools to deal with this kind of sitution. We have enough violence already in the world, we don&#039;t need to keep it going. Spare the discipline and spoil the child  would be more appropriate, not spare the rod and spoil the child. More harm has been done with this ignorant notion. We need to learn this major difference between punishment and calm assertive discipline and when it should be applied. Is there anyone out there who knows and understands this difference and how to apply the knowledge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference beetween punishment and discipline as few people seem to know. That whole episode could haae been handled differently. preventing it from esculating completely out of hand as it did.  Was taking the jelly beans away from the child necessary because she was acting &#8220;silly&#8221;. I would like to know just what &#8220;silly&#8221; actually meant. The act of taking awawy the jelly beans  created resistence.  Resistence  creates resistense  a principle of life. Teachers need to be trained to know this difference. If you want to know the differnce, and don&#8217;t laugh, watch the Dog Whisperer, Cesar Millan. He is teaching people  this difference and that love without discipline  does not work, nor does punishment as a substitute for discipline.  He demonstrates how calm assertive discipline changes negative  or undesirable behavioor into a positive state of mind. He does it  before it esulates by remaining  calm and assertive.  No teacher should ever be allowed to backhand a child. There are much more effective tools to deal with this kind of sitution. We have enough violence already in the world, we don&#8217;t need to keep it going. Spare the discipline and spoil the child  would be more appropriate, not spare the rod and spoil the child. More harm has been done with this ignorant notion. We need to learn this major difference between punishment and calm assertive discipline and when it should be applied. Is there anyone out there who knows and understands this difference and how to apply the knowledge?</p>
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		<title>By: Auth. Floet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auth. Floet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see a white child treated in this manner! This little girl did nothing even comparable to what little white deranged, psychopathic kids do on the day to day. How about the little white boys screaming like monkeys, throwing items across rooms, running through the class slapping other students and then banging his head into walls and on the floor. Or little white girls having fits because the teacher won&#039;t give her some attention and goes into a rage by pulling her hair and other little girls hair and then forcing herself to vomit! Yes these are actual events that I have witnessed. Sounds like a normal typical white outburst I guess, but you&#039;ll never see the police called to intervene and send him/her to the mental institution where he/her belongs. Instead he&#039;ll get a hug and his parents will be called. They will also be comforted and not scorned. And it will end in a lovely day. That child will grow up to probably kill his wife or bury people in his backyard and I can&#039;t even say what the little girls future looks like. 
But instead we use color as a tool to mistreat others children and the law is in favor because it assist them in destroying black children while they are young, so they can have more criminals. Good job America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see a white child treated in this manner! This little girl did nothing even comparable to what little white deranged, psychopathic kids do on the day to day. How about the little white boys screaming like monkeys, throwing items across rooms, running through the class slapping other students and then banging his head into walls and on the floor. Or little white girls having fits because the teacher won&#8217;t give her some attention and goes into a rage by pulling her hair and other little girls hair and then forcing herself to vomit! Yes these are actual events that I have witnessed. Sounds like a normal typical white outburst I guess, but you&#8217;ll never see the police called to intervene and send him/her to the mental institution where he/her belongs. Instead he&#8217;ll get a hug and his parents will be called. They will also be comforted and not scorned. And it will end in a lovely day. That child will grow up to probably kill his wife or bury people in his backyard and I can&#8217;t even say what the little girls future looks like.<br />
But instead we use color as a tool to mistreat others children and the law is in favor because it assist them in destroying black children while they are young, so they can have more criminals. Good job America!</p>
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