Apparently I pissed someone off with my entry about the French.
Ah. Fresh meat. 
Allow me to dissect the comment. *cracks knuckles* Frenchie’s comments are in italics. I have omitted a handful of his comments that are unworthy of reply.
Only a blood thirsty religious fanatic could make the relation between the refusal of a nation to support an outright invasion with little proof-did we see weapons of mass destruction yet?- and the god-like punishment upon elderly people…pathetic.
1. It was a joke.
2. I’m not a religious fantatic. Most people would argue that I’m an atheist, although Kyle says that my spiritual beliefs qualify as a definitely theist philosophy. Most of my beliefs are rooted in Rosicrucianism.
I guess in your case,if wishing death on 80+years old people as a mean of settlement to your personal dissatisfaction is ok..that IS scary.
Actually, what scares me more are all the Islamist terrorists bent on settling their personal dissatisfactions by actually blowing people up. But that’s just me.
I hope you live long to learn your misdjudgements, my friend..One of my best friend lost a relative in that heat.I mourn for him.
The fact that I didn’t take the opportunity to pour out my condolences to the bereaved should not be mistaken for callousness. How I choose to grieve the loss of human life is something personal, and I generally don’t feel the need to announce it to the world at large.
I have other things to spend my energy on than stating the obvious. But to suggest that my silence equals cruelty is deliberate baiting and not a relevant issue for discussion.
And I’ll even forgive you for your misinformation.
That’s very generous of you. [/sarcasm]
Advice:stop watching too much TV,and if you truly believe in God,pray for the American kids falling for what?,and please don’t call that a liberation,i’m gonna cry.
Well god knows I wouldn’t want to make you cry.
As to watching TV, I don’t do much of that these days. We have TiVO, and typically only watch what we intentionally record. That tends to be episodes of Buffy and Angel, Monster Garage, Kim Possible, and other assorted cartoons.
Oh, I guess you meant TV news. I don’t bother with that either, unless it’s the Daily Show, which is at least amusing. But TV network news is basically worthless.
As for the liberation of Iraq, that is absolutely what it is. Are you even paying attention to what Saddam’s regime was like? How thoroughly destroyed that country is both in the freedom of its people and the physical infrastructure? Iraq used to be a modern nation with a sophisticated, thriving society.
I don’t feel like using this space to expand upon the horrors of Saddam Hussein or the Baath Party, or Islamist/Arabist militants in general (Saddam’s was a secular dictatorship). But it nauseates me to think that you obviously believe that the voluntary sacrifice of our brave soldiers is somehow not worth the freedom of a nation in which Saddam abducted men and boys from the streets and forced them into the army (and then refused to decently feed or clothe them, and tortured or killed those who tried to escape).
And as far as pussies go,remember this country would not exist if not for the French sacrificing their lives some 200 years ago against,,,your precious British allies.
I was wondering when you were going to trot that out. Seems like everybody does.
To quote something I said in one of my fiskings of Michael Moore, “Yeah, and?”
In any case this criticism is just stupid. Yes, the British were our enemies at the time. It was a war of independence, the American Revolution, remember? And yes, the French navy did play an important role in the Battle of Yorktown. Again, I don’t feel like expanding upon that battle or its effect upon the Revolution (it was not the final battle of the war).
But by your reasoning, that one event 200 years ago is somehow valid as a basis for any and all future allegiance to France, even to the point of opposing something we know to be morally necessary?
The British are our allies because they are our allies. They act like it for one, and don’t act like spoiled children whenever we disagree on something or refuse to go along with something they think is a good idea. Nor do they use NATO, the EU, and the United Nations as clubs to make us do what they want.
Friendship is an ongoing process that involves reciprocity. I don’t think I need to explain how that isn’t the nature of our relationship with France these days.
Pray for them as well.
Indeed. I pray that the French people come to their senses before their country is overwhelmed by Islamist immigrants who refuse to assimilate into their society and fuel the pre-existing anti-semitism there.
History class time:France was overwhemingly occupied by Nazi germany.Did you ever wake up with that at your door?
No, but I like to think that if the Nazis came knocking on my door, I would greet them with a shotgun in the face instead of throwing the door open wide, inviting them in, going prostrate on the floor and then serving them my finest food and drink for several years.
I’m also not entirely sure what this has to do with the rest of your comments. Are you attempting to cite an excuse for cowardice in the face of evil? Probably not the concept you intended to advance.
And part of the country-called resistance greatly suffered murders-and torture-to help….the Britain-Us liberation..Would not dare call that pussies.
You’re going to have to clarify that one for me, because I haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.
Thank you Kyle for bringing some sense to the table.
What he omitted from his remarks is the observation that one of the reasons France lacks widespread A/C is the socialist nature of the economy, which makes electricity prohibitively expensive for no good reason.
And so you know,just because France opposed a decision from this administration does not make them supporters of the last Iraki government…after all,EVERY country was doing business with Irak until last year…
That’s very cute how you first deny the connection and then make excuses for its existence. So which is it?
And don’t twist words around to avoid the issue. France “opposing a decision from this [the United States] administration” is considerably more innocent-sounding than “defending at all costs its own illegal involvement with the Saddam regime and the ridiculously huge amounts of money being channeled to specific French politicians and businessmen”.
France’s opposition was not mere moral qualms, no matter how they choose to frame the issue. It also wasn’t all just talk. France took material, concrete steps to obstruct and oppose the functioning of the United Nations and the global diplomatic community in order to thwart the United States (and that was after approving the UN resolution that started the ball rolling). It constitutes a tangible betrayal of France’s relationship with the US, and this is pretty obvious to Americans, although apparently less so to the French.
And no, not every country was doing business with Iraq. France had everything to lose from the fall of Saddam’s regime. All the under-the-table oil deals were made with Saddam. Without him, those contracts aren’t worth a pile of dogshit. All of that was in direct violation of UN sanctions, don’t forget.
And yes, anyone who opposed the deposing of Saddam was ipso facto a supporter of his regime. Period. There is no neutral ground in this war. The UN got their building in Baghdad blown up thinking that.
Talking of which,that mass murderer Idi Amin Dada finally died this month…living and protected by Saudi Arabia. Are we looking in the wrong place?
The House of Saud is not out friend. I think that much is obvious. Clearly we are going to have to deal with them sooner or later.
Take your own conclusions,and please stop the hate..
Y’all really need to be directing that appeal to the Islamists who are determined to kill everyone who isn’t Muslim. But I realize that such people wouldn’t give you an open forum for your free speech, nor would they allow you to live after speaking out against them. So I suppose civilized people like myself are the safest places to vent that sentiment.
Peace.
No thanks to you.
September 4th, 2003 at 10:38 am - Edit
Forget that retarded cannibal Idia Amin! What country is Maurice Papon living in? It starts with “Fran” and ends with “ce!”
September 5th, 2003 at 4:12 pm - Edit
[Fred Rogers voice] Can you say “Muslim Republic of Eastern Arabia?”
September 9th, 2003 at 5:28 pm - Edit
Interesting the different histories taught between the U.S. and France.
It seems this author thinks the French were responsible for liberating the colonies.
I thought that the French refused to publicly take a side until after the colonies had shown that they could take the British, as in Germantown. While I don’t blame the French for waiting, their delayed entrance doesn’t exactly rebut the “pussy” appelation.
It’s nice that both of our histories agree that France was overrun by Nazis.
It’s interesting, though, that Frenchie’s history has the French resistance being a major sponsor of the liberation.
The history that I learned includes the leader of the resistance running away from France, and trying to lead through public radio broadcasts from afar. and despite the fact that the only ones who would liberate France were the U.S., U.K, and Russia, it seems he didn’t get along well with these countries. and this de Gaulle is now a national hero. Again, I’m not saying running away wasn’t a smart move, but it still doesn’t disprove the “pussy” label.
The history I learned does have a few Frenchmen resisting the occupation. I’m willing to grant you that those 5% or so may have been brave. but the 95% who didn’t really seem to do much about their country being taken over by the Nazis, and the large percentage of those that later tried to claim that they were part of the resistance when they weren’t, well, brave isn’t the adjective I’d use.
To the hundreds of thousands of Americans and Brits who lost their lives liberating the French in World War II, I greatly admire their bravery. Maybe that’s a thought (especially since it’s so recent) that’s more worthy of mention than the French help in the 1700s. or maybe the British and American lives lost in World War I, again helping the French, are also more worthy of remembrance.
Maybe not. maybe it’s my history teachers that misguided me.
September 15th, 2003 at 3:06 pm - Edit
France’s motives in the Revolutionary War were more about them hating the British than for any love for the United States. That was pretty much it.
December 10th, 2003 at 9:39 pm - Edit
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