Maybe “against” is the wrong word.

BOULDER, Colo. — About 85 students remained holed up inside the library at Boulder High School early Friday, saying they’re concerned about the direction the country is headed and refusing to leave until they’ve met with leaders from the Republican Party.

“We want them to reassure us that our fears are misguided and that the government is doing everything in its power to prevent our futures from being destroyed,” said senior Brian Martens.

The students said they were not protesting this week’s election, but said they were worried about the huge national debt run up during the first four years of the Bush administration, along with military recruitment in schools and other issues.

This is sick, that these kids have become so frightened for no good reason. You know who is responsible for that? The current incarnation of the Democratic Party and the misinformation and panic they spread about the deficit, the draft, and other bullshit.

National debt is not a new phenomenon, and it’s not going to go away anytime soon. Nor is it going to bring about the apocalypse.

These kids should not be worried about that, or the draft, or any of the left’s other bogeymen. They should be worried about terrorists who want to kill them all. They should be worried about the Social Security system, which taxes them and yet they will never see a penny of it again. They should be worried about the left’s efforts to take guns away from law-abiding citizens, leaving us helpless in the event of government tyranny (from either side of the political spectrum).

The movement to destroy capitalism and establish a socialist nanny state is what should concern them, and yet I’m sure that the destruction of capitalism is what their teachers and parents say is utopia.

Most of these kids aren’t even old enough to vote, nor are they experienced enough to really understand these issues. They need to go home and do their homework and try to undo the damage that the public school system has inflicted upon them.

7 Responses to “High School Kids Stage Protest Against GOP”
  1. Al says:

    Other reports were more blunt:
    ‘We’re scared of the draft!’

    I’d have showed up and said:
    “Look, we’ve said officially several times that we aren’t planning a draft, the military doesn’t want a draft, we’ve had a military nearly double the size of the current military without a draft, and the Democrat’s bill to introduce the draft was defeated 402-2. So, please do this – write down ‘Democrats say draft inevitable, Republicans say no draft expected.’ Keep that in your wallet until the next election, then read it again and remember how you feel right now.”

  2. Stephen Lobanov-Rostovsky says:

    I was leading the organization of this protest. It was not as planned as I wanted and I cannot help what others say, I can only express my own beliefs.

    I PERSONALLY know that the draft is not even an issue at hand, that is just a misguided statement and whenever I was aware of the fact that the statement was made I tried to let the press that heard it and the kid who said it know that it was not an issue.

    Terrorism don’t concern me as much, that is just made worse by the national media; if you want to know more read “The Culture Of Fear” by Barry Glassner. Hopefully that will explain where I get most of my backing on that position.

    I do feel there are threats throughout the whole world, but none so much as ourselves. The media can twist it to the point of extreme fears to make ourselves more dangerous then anyone else. We kill each other more than others kill us.

    Social Security is one of the biggest issues. It is a scary fact in life when the government can make a system of funding then taking the money future generatiuos are putting right out for whatever they say is deemed necessary.

    We are not of age to vote, but we are always of an age to have opinions and to have the right to express them. If you wish to talk slander about us, that is your right, I respect that, but get all your facts right, talk to us first.

    If you wish to be in contact, email me at Alphenex2000@yahoo.com, I will give you my phone number or one of our phone numbers if it seems necessary.

    Thank you, Stephen Lobanov-Rostovsky, organizer of protest and part of Student Worker of Boulder High School, Boulder, Colorado.

  3. Anne Haight says:

    Stephen,

    Thank you for bringing your own voice to this discussion. I tend to mistrust the media’s reporting of issues like this, and it seemed to me that your school’s faculty were taking advantage of the situation to offer their own opinions. I also know from personal experience that the media have a habit of finding exactly the wrong people to talk to and quote.

    I’d like to hear your views without the static of other parties.

    According to the news, Rep. Mark Udall met with your group. I’m curious about the content of that meeting, and what the text of your “list of grievances” is. I haven’t read “The Culture of Fear” but I believe Kyle has, so he can probably expand upon that.

  4. Kyle Haight says:

    I don’t think I’ve read “The Culture of Fear”, so I can’t comment on it.

  5. christy uncensored :) says:

    “This is sick, that these kids have become so frightened for no good reason. You know who is responsible for that? The current incarnation of the Democratic Party and the misinformation and panic they spread about the deficit, the draft, and other bullshit.”
    — You’re accusing Democrats of using fear to influence people? Isn’t that sort of the pot calling the kettle black? Last time I checked, I think the Homeland Security Advisory System was at Mauve.. tho it may have elevated to Fuchsia…. blow me. I don’t even know how to respond to this one. =|

    “National debt is not a new phenomenon, and it’s not going to go away anytime soon. Nor is it going to bring about the apocalypse.”
    –Nope.. not new.. but what a turnaround, huh? Biggest in history, I believe. And what do we have to show for all of that $$? Social security? nope. Better public education? nope. More well equipped military? considering they’re using plywood for body armor over there, I think not (yeah yeah.. the $87 Billion…. Bush wasn’t that concerned for the welfare of our troops when they brought him the bill twice and he threatened both times to veto unless they revised it – once because it alotted some of the $ to veterans.. God forbid… and once because the money given to Iraq was considered a LOAN instead of a GRANT.. guess his conscience kicked in considering how much he’ll be making off their oil).. so what DID he do with all that money? Maybe he used it to give $3,000 school voucher kickbacks to wealthy families who already had their kids in private schools… yikes!

    “These kids should not be worried about that, or the draft, or any of the left’s other bogeymen. They should be worried about terrorists who want to kill them all.”
    –And I suppose we should feel safer with Bush in office now, huh? I certainly do. I sleep SO much better knowing that he’s taking thousands of police officers off the streets, invading countries and, not only legitimizing their beef with us, but pissing off MORE extremists in the process, and leaving halfway through when he finds a bigger, wealthier fish to fry.

    “They should be worried about the Social Security system, which taxes them and yet they will never see a penny of it again.”
    –Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….. I wonder why.

    “They should be worried about the left’s efforts to take guns away from law-abiding citizens, leaving us helpless in the event of government tyranny (from either side of the political spectrum).”
    –I sort of agree with you here, but this would involve a long conversation with voices, not fingers.

    “The movement to destroy capitalism and establish a socialist nanny state is what should concern them, and yet I’m sure that the destruction of capitalism is what their teachers and parents say is utopia.”
    –I dunno how many of us want to destroy capitalism or establish socialism… surely not I. I believe we are a wealthier nation when more of us are wealthy, rather than having a few filthy rich then a huge gap to the middle class. This is also a long conversation.

    “Most of these kids aren’t even old enough to vote, nor are they experienced enough to really understand these issues. They need to go home and do their homework and try to undo the damage that the public school system has inflicted upon them.”
    –Wow… maybe we should give them vouchers so they can protest in a private school and not waste your tax dollars talking to greedy republicans. =x

  6. Anne Haight says:

    You’re accusing Democrats of using fear to influence people? Isn’t that sort of the pot calling the kettle black? Last time I checked, I think the Homeland Security Advisory System was at Mauve.. tho it may have elevated to Fuchsia…. blow me. I don’t even know how to respond to this one. =|

    Irrationally, from the looks of it. And how is it the pot calling the kettle black? Or did you assume that I’m a Republican?

    Nope.. not new.. but what a turnaround, huh? Biggest [national deficit] in history, I believe.

    Not exactly.

    But the most important measure of the deficit is not the size in dollars, or even the size in dollars after adjusting for inflation. The most important measure is the size relative to the nation’s economic output, what economists call Gross Domestic Product or GDP. And in fact, the current projected deficit was equaled or exceeded in four years during the Reagan administration and two years in the term of Bush’s father.

    yeah yeah.. the $87 Billion…. Bush wasn’t that concerned for the welfare of our troops when they brought him the bill twice and he threatened both times to veto unless they revised it – once because it alotted some of the $ to veterans

    You do have sources for that. Right? And no, I don’t consider John Kerry’s campaign remarks to be a legitimate source of factual information. You might try reading this.

    (guess his conscience kicked in considering how much he’ll be making off their oil)

    And how much would that be, exactly? Since you seem to know so much about it.

    so what DID he do with all that money? Maybe he used it to give $3,000 school voucher kickbacks to wealthy families who already had their kids in private schools… yikes!

    Please point me to some evidence supporting that claim.

    And I suppose we should feel safer with Bush in office now, huh? I certainly do. I sleep SO much better knowing that he’s taking thousands of police officers off the streets

    More DNC campaign ad info, huh? Hmm.

    invading countries

    You left out the “run by despotic murderers who declared open war on the United States on more than one occasion, defied the United Nations repeatedly, and which was — according to the best evidence of multiple nations — developing weapons of mass destruction to use on its neighbors” part.

    not only legitimizing their beef with us, but pissing off MORE extremists in the process

    The terrorists are already pissed off, and nothing we do will change that — except killing them, which we are doing in very large numbers. I’m also a little disturbed that you seem to think that it’s better to avoid annoying terrorist killers than to stomp on them.

    and leaving halfway through when he finds a bigger, wealthier fish to fry.

    Huh?

    “They should be worried about the Social Security system, which taxes them and yet they will never see a penny of it again.”
    –Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….. I wonder why.

    Because it’s a big Ponzi scheme that is inherently flawed and should never have been enacted in the first place?

    I dunno how many of us want to destroy capitalism or establish socialism… surely not I. I believe we are a wealthier nation when more of us are wealthy, rather than having a few filthy rich then a huge gap to the middle class. This is also a long conversation.

    Indeed. But consider that, in absolute terms, even the poorest Americans are wealthier than their counterparts in much of the world. The Heritage Foundation compiled some interesting statistics regarding this, including:

    46% of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.

    76% of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

    Only 6% of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.

    The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

    Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30% own two or more cars.

    97% of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.

    78% have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.

    73% own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher.

    You also might want to try reading another of Rector’s papers concerning the gap between the “rich” and the “poor”, and gain some better understanding of the entire concept before spouting off about the “inequality” thing. His essential conclusion in that paper (emphasis mine):

    The top fifth of the population has $4.21 of income for every $1.00 at the bottom.

    The remaining inequality in society is heavily influenced by the lack of work at the bottom. If working-age adults in the lower quintiles worked as much as their higher-income counterparts, the income disparity of the top to the bottom quintiles would fall to $2.91 to $1.00.

    Still, the top fifth of U.S. households (with incomes above $84,000) remain perennial targets of class-warfare enmity. These families, however, perform a third of all labor in the economy. They contain the best educated and most productive workers, and they provide a disproportionate share of the investment needed to create jobs and spur economic growth. Nearly all are married-couple families, many with two or more earners. Far from shirking the tax burden, these families pay 82.5 percent of total federal income taxes and two-thirds of federal taxes overall. By contrast, the bottom quintile pays 1.1 percent of total federal taxes.12

    In one sense, John Edwards is correct: There is one America that works a lot and pays a lot in taxes, and there is another America that works less and pays little. However, the reality is the opposite of what Edwards suggests. It is the higher-income families who work a lot and pay nearly all the taxes.

    “Most of these kids aren’t even old enough to vote, nor are they experienced enough to really understand these issues. They need to go home and do their homework and try to undo the damage that the public school system has inflicted upon them.”
    –Wow… maybe we should give them vouchers so they can protest in a private school and not waste your tax dollars talking to greedy republicans. =x

    I haven’t the slightest idea what you’re talking about here.

  7. eat me says:

    Fuck America man, thats all i gota say FUCK YOU!

    …..and good luck with the draft shit, yer all gona fukin die, cause you were dumb enough to vote for bush.. haha.

    peace.

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